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Joyce Meyer Ministries

After 9 years of giving, man has no Chrysler, no wife, no wealth
By Carolyn Tuft

Bob Schneller gave to until it hurt. Nine years later, he says, it still aches.

He’s out of money, out of a marriage and out of faith with televangelists.

Schneller, 59, lives alone in a 600-square-foot, early-model mobile home in House Springs. He’s surrounded by videotapes of televangelists. He says he studies the tapes to learn how he was taken in by Meyer.

Not so long ago, Schneller spent his days hanging on Meyer’s every word. The money he gave her — $4,400 a year — surpassed his annual mortgage payment. He and his wife lived on $30,000 a year.

“She teaches you that if you give a seed offering, it will come back tenfold or a hundredfold,” Schneller said. “I know it sounds ridiculous, but you get caught up in it. You believe it as truth.”

Schneller was reared as a Roman Catholic but said he was reborn as a Protestant Christian when he was 40.

A year later, in 1985, the Schnellers started attending Life Christian Center, near their home in Fenton. At the center, they learned what Schneller calls the message: If you give, you will get more in return. And there they met , then an up-and-coming preacher.

“Her teachings were practical,” Schneller said. “I’d never heard anyone preach that way before.”

He and his wife, Mary Jo, followed Meyer to her in a Ramada Inn in South County, one of several places she preached.

Soon, the Schnellers were working for Meyer. Bob Schneller became Meyer’s exterminator. Mary Jo worked as Meyer’s hairdresser.

Most of what Meyer taught, Schneller said, is what he calls the “name-it-and-claim-it” : If you have enough faith, you can name what you want.

“So I laid across the hood of a brand new 1985 Chrysler Fifth Avenue,” Schneller said. “I never did get it. She would say that I didn’t have enough faith, or that there was sin in my life blocking the blessing. It always goes back to you.”

The Schnellers began giving more to Meyer: $350 a month. They went to Meyer’s home sessions.

By the early 1990s, Meyer’s popularity started to climb.

But Schneller was less fortunate. His back went out, and he lacked money to pay his bills. He went to Meyer and told her what was happening. She laid her hands on him, he said, and told him that he would be healed, that his problems would soon go away.

“One day, I went out to my mailbox, and there inside were six $100 bills wrapped up,” Schneller said. “Right after that, she had me give testimony, and she used it to prove that you can be blessed.”

Despite the $600, nothing changed, he said. He went on workers’ compensation and underwent neck surgery. Meyer called him to wish him well, he said. She began giving seed money to a ministry that Schneller and his wife had started, Sword of Spirit of Truth.

Then, in the spring of 1994, a new technique was percolating among charismatics like Meyer. It was called “holy laughter,” a ritual in which the congregation sings songs repetitively. The preacher steps onstage and begins laughing. Immediately, the room breaks into laughter. People slide out of their chairs and onto the floor, “drunk on the .”

But Schneller felt uncomfortable with it.

The Schnellers went to a church in Waterloo. There, Schneller spoke out against holy laughter. A few days later, Schneller said, his wife was called into Meyer’s office.

Meyer told her, Schneller said, that because of their position on holy laughter, “I can no longer support you.”

They parted ways.

Since then, Schneller’s marriage has fallen apart. He works as a security guard and attends a “regular church, where the is taught verse by verse.”

Referring to Meyer’s ministry, he says: “My advice to other people thinking about getting involved and giving: Don’t give it — you’re being ripped off.”

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7 comments “Joyce Meyer Ministries”

It is your faith in God that will make you whole not your faith in man. If you spend time in the Word Of God as well as with him personally he will give you wisdom concerning everything in your life.

I listen to Joyce every morning and will continue to do so. The bible teaches us not to put faith in man but in Him and in Him alone. Maybe the things you were going through were because He wanted you to lean on Him and not Joyce. Joyce’s teachings help me and thousands of others everyday but she is just a person and she is human just like everyone else. She is going to have faults and she is not always going to be perfect because she is human. But even in saying all of that look at all of the people the word of God reaches through her voice and her willingness to get out there and do what she was called to do in God and in doing that knowing that there will be critics out there and circumstances that satan will try to use to discourage others from helping or giving to her ministry. Rather or not the money that we give to whomever or where ever or whatever ministry we do give it to is spent where it is supposed to be or not that is not for us to judge. When you give to a cause or ministry God will bless you out of the state of your heart and if it’s in your heart to only give to receive then that is giving out of selfishness and God will not bless that. If it is given and in return judged God will not bless that either but when it is given out of love then once it leaves our hands we have done our part and God blesses that. Anytime you give to GOD and not man you are never RIPPED OFF I guess the way you look at it depends on the state of your heart.

in answer to Madison. Certainly we are to judge where we give our money and what the person we give it to does with it. would you give your money to a crack dealer to buy a Cadillac or Bentley like Price,. would you give your money to a baby killing abortionist/
Would you give your hard earned money to the pimp down the block so he can buy a 5 million dollar home/ The money we give should be give using the wisdom that God gives us… and not to be stupid and give money so some money hungry preacher can buy a 5 million dollar home, or another sad case of preacher Benny paying ten thousand dollars for one night in a Milan Italy hotel.
Did you ever think about the widow who saves all her money and then decides to give it to a ministry for the gospel and all her savings is used for some outlandish purchase of some greedy preacher’s toys or night out on the town.
Please people grow up. Find some street preacher who is putting his life on the line for Christ and publicly proclaiming the truth and pray about supporting him.
Also about Joyce Meyers. what will you do about the following scripture? will you erase it from your bible of cross it our with black marker?
I am speaking the truth in Christ and not lying–a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
8 I desire therefore that the men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting; 9 in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, 10 but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works. 11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. 12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15 Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.
1 Tim 2:7-15 (NKJV)

Really!!? Their out-reach does many things for many people. I’ve been donating 30.00 a month for years now. I have had many ups and downs during this time but it has NEVER crossed my mind to blame Joyce for lifes problems….this is ridiculous!!

I personally like Joyce did, but I know she use a mind programming sympathy technique. Repeating, a loud voice. But I don’t agree the way she live. This is a mind technique control. Influence others to believe GOD. I hope it was HE GOD that you preach about and not Mammon money that you gave promise.

You teach HOPES of money wordly joy, while you know the kingdom of God not lies in wordly things but in hope for peace and love to Jesus as God Word.

The money can’t buy peace and love. Maybe at first but after that it will ripped it out if the money gone.

repent Joyce before it is too late.

PEOPLE HAS ALWAYS COMPLAINED ABOUT THE PREACHER/TEACHER BUT THIS RELIGION MOST IS TAUGHT BUT THE SPIRIT OF GOD SAYS THE COMFORTER SHALL TEACH AND GUIDE YOU. GO BACK TO GOD WITH YOUR PROBLEMS AND THEN LISTEN FOR GOD TO ANSWER YOU THOU HIS HOLY-HOLY WORD AND BELIEVE AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE. GOD DOES THE IMPOSSIBLE. NOT YOUR MONEY. BE THANKFUL YOU HAVE AN HOME AND AN SAVED WIFE. BECAUSE EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE BELONGS TO GOD NOT YOUR HOME, MONEY,NOR WIFE. BUT SEEK YE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS and all other things shall be added unto you. BUT YOU MUST BELIEVE IN GOD THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS. GOD BLESS AND PRAY

” they would deceive even the very elect” (Jesus)..Why doe it surprise so many of you to learn that “much” of what Joyce says is true ? WHY ? This has always been the way Satan has deceived. A little truth mixed with a little error and a dash of Joyce..Stir it all together and it won’t cook. She is clearly a self centered heretic.ANYBODY with the discernment of God’s Spirit, knows this. Sound the alarm. Blow the trumpets loud !!! Warn the people of God ! These are they who as wild beast and birds of prey devour the heritage of God..(Jer) 12. We are all idiots for supporting any thing that is named after it’s preacher..Benny Hinn Ministries, Joyce Meyer Ministries, Paula White Ministries, Kenneth Copeland Ministries…None of these jerks are under the authority of a church..But MANY will say unto me “LORD LORD”……COME ON PEOPLE OF GOD !! FEED THE POOR, HELP THE SICK AND THE HOMELESS WHERE YOU LIVE…THESE PEOPLE CONTINUE TO TEMPT GOD WITH THE MONEY YOU IDIOTS ARE SENDING.. YOU ARE GONNA BE JUDGED TOO !! REPENT QUICKLY !! OR DIVE IN TO HELL WITH THE REST of TBN,,,


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